Monday, November 8, 2010

What is Ismailism?

The following description of Ismailism is written by Ali, also known as Mukarrib. This has been transferred to this blog from the Zaidism blog, so that people who are researching Ismailism will be able to access it more easily. Zaida (whose profile appears on this blog) is not an Ismaili, so address your comments and questions to Ali in the comments section below.
September 29, 2010 7:15 PM
Mukarrib said...
Salam,i am a Isma'ili ,We dont Number the imams At all!

this is Common Beleif!

These Are our Awsiya:

Musa -Harun

Isa-simun As-Safa(Isa is Dead in Isma'ili Beleif)

these Are our imams(a.s):
ali ibn husayn
Muhamamd ibn ali
Jafar Bin muhammad

(after him Came the Period of Satr or Secret Mission)
Isma'il ibn Jafar

Musa Al-Kazim(Not a Real imam(Mustaqqar imam) but a Mustawda imam to Protect The Identity of muhammmad Ibn Isma'il)
Muhamamad ibn Isma'il

Abdullah ibn Muhammad Al-Mastoor

Ahmed Ibn Abdullah al-Mastoor

Husayn Ibn al-Ahmad al-Mastoor

al-Mahdi Billah

al-Qa'im billah

al-Mansoor billah

Al-Mu'iz Li dinallah(under his rule Egypt and Syria is conquered)

Al-Aziz Billah

Abu ‘Ali Mansur Tāriqu l-Ḥākim(under his Reign southern France,Southern Italy,Allepo is conquered)

Imam Zahir(under his Reign Masjid al-Aqsa is built)

Imam mustansir billah

Imam musta'ali Billah

Imam al-amir bi Ahkam Allah

Imam Tayyib ibn amir(Went into Hiding)

abnd After him the list of Imams Continues and as Imam Tayyib Ibn Tayyib

The Awaited One is Qa'im al-Qiyamah.

and Unlike Twelvers We Beleive the Imams Die.

and the Da'i of Najran is the Head of the Ummah.
September 30, 2010 11:05 AM
Mukarrib said...
Regarding the Isma'ili Imamah it is a Neccassery Perequisite for a Masoom and Chosen with Nass.

It is Not a Thing of shura or the choice of Men.

No Prophet of allah has Chosen their Wasi in This Manner.

but the Bani Israa'il did Follow al-Samiri Based on shura .

The Wasi or Natiq is Brought with Every Rasool (Messenger) of allah in 7 Stages.

there Were 7 Prophets and Seven WAsi's.

the number 7 is Very Important in Our Theology.

The Job of the Prophet is to Give the Zahiri PArt of din Adam al-Awaal(the Religion of Adam and the angels Before the Fall)and The Islamic Shari'ah.

the job of the Natiq is to give the Taw'il of The din Adam al-Awaal
and the islamic shari'ah.

the Isma'ili Imamah is something wich is the Wajhatallah(The direction Of allah)and the NoorAllah(the Light of allah)The Mystical wisdom and Ismah (Infallibilty )is Present within the imam.

Walayah Are among the Seven Pillars of Faith and Walayah is Love for the Prophet the Wasi the imam and the Da'i .

externally the Imam is a pure personality and internally a light.

Externally, the Qur'an is the holy Book and internally (in the Imam) it is a light.

This shows that externally Ali and the Qur'ân are separate from each other, but internally they are not only together, they are one light.

Ali and the Imams After him Are therefore Called al-quran al-Natiq(The Speaking quran)

While ali Amir ul-Mumineen Described the book of allah as the quran Al-Samit(silent quran)


Amir al-Mu'minin, Ali ibn Abi Talib (SA) says:

"The Qur'an is a light whose lamp cannot be extinguished, an ocean whose depth cannot be fathomed, a path which never leads astray, a criterion whose validity is irrefutable, a cure that banishes the fear of illness, a spring of knowledge and also its ocean, the trivet of Islam and its foundation, quenches the thirst of the scholar, a clear path of the virtuous."

and Imam ahmed al-Mastoor(A.S)Says in Ikhwan al-Safa : Just as the human form is the last phase of the development of living being, so the Arabic language is the perfection of all languages and its script the perfection of calligraphy."

so what The quran is the Imam Is.
September 30, 2010 11:19 AM
Mukarrib said...
The IMAMATE:it is Matter of allah's Decision.
surah Saff verse 2 [YUSUFALI]:

O ye who believe! Why say ye that which ye do not?

a non-Masoom imam is a hypocrite he Calls people to the Obediance Of allah(SWT)But does not fully Obey him himself.

The Hashemites have had many Fasiqs among Them.

These people on bases of their Lineage should not have a Greater Right Logically then any other Person.

This would Be Favouritism.

However since the imam is MAsoom and Always masoom He has a Greater right based on His Credentials.

i.e. his Virtues and Justice are Perfect unlike others so he may have the LeaderShip.

Regarding the sulayhids they were Representatives of the FAtimi Imams(a.s)

and they are Respected by all Yemenis,Zaydis and sunni alike.

Allah frequently stated that He is the one
who assigns Imam. (see Quran 2:124, 21:73, 32:24 just as he appointed Talut over Banu Israa’’il

And We made them leaders, guiding (men) by Our Command, and We sent them inspiration to do good deeds, to establish regular prayers, and to practice regular charity; and they constantly served Us (and Us only).

Surah Ambiya verse 72:

And We MADE THEM leaders, guiding (men) by Our Command, and We sent them inspiration to do good deeds, to establish regular prayers, and to practise regular charity; and they constantly served Us (and Us only).

[32:23] And certainly We gave the Book to Musa, so be not in doubt concerning the receiving of it, and We made it a guide for the children of Israel.
Surah Sajdah verse 24:

And We APPOINTED, from among them, leaders, giving guidance under Our command, so long as they persevered with patience and continued to have faith in Our Signs.

there is no place present in allahs book or the Ahadith of Our Prophet that Indicate shura is a Bases for Imamate.

allah Said (Interpretation):O' you who believe! Obey Allah, and Obey Apostle and those
from among you who are given authority ." (Quran 4:59)

Yet it Clearly States in other Ayat Do Not Obey a Sinfull One among Them..

....and obey not from among them a sinner or an ungrateful one." (Quran

Say, I ask no reward from you for it except the love of my kinsfolk. And
whosoever does a good deed we add unto it a greater good for him. Lo, Allah is
Forgiving, Responsive. (42:23)

TAWIL AL-QURAN:None touches (the depth of meaning of Quran) save the PURIFIED ONES. (56:79)

sk the people of Reminder(prophet muhammad) if you do not know. (21:7, 16:43)

No one knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly ground in
knowledge. (3:7)

And Finally allah Has Said:

Surah al Fath verse 12:

(Such has been) the practice of Allah already in the past: no change wilt thou find in the practice of Allah.

033.062 [YUSUFALI]:]
(Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.

It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by
Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one
disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
004.065 [YUSUFALI]:
But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all
disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions,
but accept them with the fullest conviction

“Oh Muhammad! Have we expanded not your breast? And didn’t we ease your
burden, which weighed down on your back, and increased your name, certainly
after every difficulty comes ease, so when you finish APPOINT (FANSAB)and return to your
Lord” (The Qur’an 94:7-8)

So This is Why ali is Called Imam Al-Mansub(Appointed Imam)
September 30, 2010 11:41 AM
Mukarrib said...
Ali Says : God has Commanded you to Ask to the People of Reminder(Ahl al-Dhikr),and By God we are the People of Reminder.Anyone who makes this claim but is not of us,is a liar.The Word of Gods Confirms this:

Now Allah Has Send Down unto You a Reminder,a Messenger reciting unto you the revelations of Allah made plain,that he may bring forth those who believe and do good works from darkness unto light(quran 65:10-11)
and then he says:Ask the People of of the Reminder (ahl al dhikr)if you know Not(Quran 16:43)

One AMAZING on the Islamic imamah is found here :

Majlis 1: DEVOTION TO THE IMAM(pp. 17-20)
Majlis 2: LOVE FOR THE IMAMS(pp. 21-24)
Majlis 12: LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE THE IMAM (pp. 79-84)
Majlis 4: RESPECT FOR THE IMAMS (pp. 31-33)
Majlis 6: Frankness of the Momins in their Dealings with the Imam (pp. 40-45)

Majlis 7: Obedience to the Imam (pp. 46-50)

Majlis 8: To Thank the Imam in Weal or Woe (pp. 40-45)

This was Written in the 10th Century by a Da'i abu Hanifah An-numan(R.A).

it covers the Imamah from the quran and Tradtions of Rasoolallah(SWS)

Another Difference between Isma'iliyah and Zaydiyah is the Application Ijtihad.

The Isma'ili only View:the quran,the Sunna handed down to Us By Ahl Ul-Bait(a.s),and the Hadiths of the Imams As Sources(Nusoos,Usool Al-Fiqh)of Islamic Law whereas the Zaydis Apply Qiyas,Ijtihad and Aql.

We See these things as unbinding and Playing with Allahs Deen.

This Makes us Different From the Twelvers Who apply Ijtihad and Obey a Mujtahid blindly(Bi Taqlid).

We Say give us a Proof(Dhalil)From the Quran or the sunnah,if it cant be found in there Be APtient,and LEave the Subject.

Youm will find Most complex modern Issues have Been Answered by Amir al-Mumineen(a.s)Hundreds of Years Ago including Hermophrodism(Al-Khanath),May allah Bless him and his Family.

Finally The Almighty Allah Says :All things we have kept in a "Imamun Mubin" (Manifest imam). (36:12)

so we Beleive the imam must have the Gateway to all Esoteric Knowledge.

The Prophet Muhammad Said in Ahadith Al-Tawatir:

I am the city of Al-Ilm(ana Madinat Al-ilm) and Ali is it Gate(Bab).

al-ilm means the knowledge and Distinguishes from ''''''Ana Madinat Ilm''wich means only some Knowledge.

also We Beleiv ein Taqiyah and so did the Early ZAydiyah.

We beleive a Imam Can Apply Taqiyah.

i shall quote Some Zaydi works Insha'Allah.

Another difference between us and Twelvers is We Say the Prophets of Allah Are higher then the WAsis of allah and the Wasis of allah Are higher then the Imams of allah and the Imams ofm allah are higher then the Abwaab Al-A'immah and the Abwaab Al-A'immah are huigher then the Du'u''at al-A'immah.

Each Imam comes with a following Order(HUDOOD)

1. Nabi
2. Wasi
3. Imam
4. Bab ul Abwab(Salma al-Farisi(R.A)being a Good Example)
5. Hujjat(Queen Arwa al-sulayhiya being a good Example)
6. Dai al Balagh
7. Dai al Zazeera
8. Dai al Mutlaq
9. Mazoon
10. Mukasir

Mustawda Nabi served for long time to Mustaqqar Imams, example - Ishaq ibn Ibrahim Khalilullah was Mustawda Nabi serving to Ismail ibn Ibrahim Khalilullah, the Mustaqqar Imam (Salawatallah alayhim).

Services that Mustawda Nabi served to Mustakar Imams needed to be squared off per Allah’s rule of justice hence, Mustaqqar Imam have to serve Mustawda Nabi’s.

Who is Prophet Mohammed (S.A): He is collection of all Mustawda Nabi from Adam till Mohammed (S.A)

Who is Mawla ali: He is collection of all Mustaqqar Imam from Hunaid (brother of Adam) till Ali (A.S)

Who Muawiya and Yazeed: They are collections of qabeel, Namrood, Firawn Etc.

and May Allah forgive Me form any mistakes i Have Made in This Post.

Wasalam to all My Beloved Zaydi Brothers!
September 30, 2010 12:05 PM
Mukarrib said...
zaydis and Taqiyah :We Beleive a Imam May apply Taqiyah and does not Need to Call People to him only By The Sword.
Zaydis did allow Taqiyah At first(The Jarudiyah Being a good Example).

Interpretation: it is permissible to eat Haram food or Consume Sarabah(Wine) Under the state of Taqiyyah
:جواز التقية في حكم الاَطعمة والاَشربة المحرمة
Zaydi Reference: Bahr al Zakhaar Vol.6, P.100, by Imam of Zaydis Ahmed ibn Yahya ibn al Murtada
No Woman May Attain Punishment When Commiting fornication Under Taqiyah!

وأما لو استكرهت المرأة على الزنا ، فلا حدّ عليها ، قولاً واحداً
Zaydi Reference: Bahr al Zakhaar Vol.6, P.100, by Imam of Zaydis Ahmed ibn Yahya ibn al Murtada
Taking the Maal of another Person is Permissable Under Taqiyah:وأطلق الاِمام الزيدي أحمد بن يحيى بن المرتضى القول باباحة مال الغير بشرط الضمان في حال التقية
Zaydi Reference: Bahr al Zakhaar Vol.6, P.100, by Imam of Zaydis Ahmed ibn Yahya ibn al Murtada
It Was Zayd Ibn Ali Who Accepted the Khilafah of Abu Bakr and Umar Only Out of Taqiyah and Diplomacy(Maslaha).
To Quell Dissension(Fitna)
and to Gather the Hearts Of the A'mmah(Sunnis)

All Zaydi Scholars From Among the Salaf Accepted This and So did The Sunnis.

it was the Later Zaydis Who Were Influenced By Sunnism Wich Adopted This Viewpoint.

So To Claim Zaydism Experienced No Tahrif(Distortion)Is Not Based on Reality.

The Quran for Example Only Mentions the Appointment(Nass)For the Prophethood,Caliphate and Imamate and Does not Mention The Shura.
September 30, 2010 1:06 PM
Ali said...
Zaydis have no Imam today since 1962.
(Twelvers and ismailis atleast beleive in a Hidden One)
This Means: as Zayd Ibn Ali Quoted:Musnad Zayd p.361 :
حدثني زيد بن علي عن ابيه عن جده عن علي (ع م) قال: من مات وليس له امام مات ميتة جاهليه اذا كان الامام عدلا برا تقيا

So in every persons age there is ONE imam which he must recognize or die in ignorance. A clear simple statement!

Or The Traditon About how Everyone Will Be Called Be The Imam of Their Time:وباسناده قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله في قوله تعالى يوم ندعو كل أناس بامامهم، قال يدعى كل قوم امام زمانهم وكتاب ربهم وسنة نبيهم Musnad Zayd Pg.495

But Zaydis Never could Agree on a List of Rightfull Imams nor Did they Have Uniformity in The PErsona of the True Entity Imams.

We Also Read:وباسناده(1) قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله ثلاث أخافهن على أمتي بعدي
الضلالة بعد المعرفة، ومضلات الفتن، وشهوة البطن والفرج

Zayd Ibn ali quotes the Prophet (s) that he holds fear of three things which would be coming right after him...i.e FITNAH after him, following of Dalal (wrong path) after even gaining of Maa'rifa by people from him!!!!! and following of vain desires and lusts by people.
(fitnah meaning the Usurpation of alis right by abu bakr Maybe?)

also Pg.453 Yahya Ibn Al-Hussein Al-Hasani :الباب الرابع في فضل أهل البيت ..(القسم الاول في فضل علي بن ابي طالب ...
كرم الله وجهه)
وباسناده(1) قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله يا علي، أنا سيد المرسلين وانت يعسوب المؤمنين وامام المتقين وقائد الغر المحجلين،

Basically Abu Bakr and Umar Are not considered Caliphs or Represenattaives of Amir ul-Mumineen By the Early Zaidis But Ali is Considered so From Ghadeer.
And We see the Hadith Al-Manzila:From The Musnad Zayd pg.407-408 حتى يرزقك الله عزوجل من فضله وأما رغبتك في المخمصة والنصب في سبيل الله افما ترضى أن تكون مني بمنزلة هرون من موسى الا انه لا نبى بعدي(1) وليس لهرون عليه السلام منازل معلومة الا ثلاث: منزلة الاخوة ومنزلة الشركة اي في النبوة ومنزلة الخلافة
(as also narrated by scholar of Zaydis, Abu Qasim al Busti in Kitab al Baahir Ala Madhab al Naasir)
''''''''O Ali you Are To Me As Aaron Was to Moses''''''
Infact Yahya ibn Al hussein Says ,citing Quranic Proofs ,all The Ummah Should Follow the Wilayat of Ahl Ul-Baiy and Whoever Denies this is Flilled with Tughyan and Jahiliyah.
Nowhere inisde the Book is Abu Bakr Or Umar Listed as Rightfull Imams!

Infact The Rassi Dynasty Considered them Kufaar!
September 30, 2010 1:23 PM
Ali said...
Yahya Ibn al-Hussein also Cites Proof Ali was Nominated As the First Imam Pages 32-33 Vol1 :
ومن سبق إلى الله، وكان الهادي إلى غامض أحكام كتاب الله، فهو أحق بالامامة، لان أسبقهم أهداهم، واهداهم أتقاهم، وأتقاهم خيرهم، وخيرهم بكل خير أولاهم، وما جاء له من الذكر الجميل في واضح التنزيل فكثير غير قليل، وفيه انزل الله على رسوله بغدير خم: (يا أيها الرسول بلغ ما أنزل إليك من ربك وإن لم تفعل فما بلغت رسالاته والله يعصمك من الناس) (20) فوقف صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم وقطع سيره، ولم يستجز أن يتقدم خطوة واحدة، حتى ينفذ ما عزم به عليه في علي عليه السلام، فنزل تحت الدوحة مكانه وجمع الناس ثم قال: (يا أيها الناس ألست أولى بكم من أنفسكم قالوا بلى يارسول الله فقال: اللهم اشهد، ثم قال: اللهم اشهد، ثم قال: فمن كنت مولاه، فعلي مولاه، اللهم وال من والاه، وعاد من عاداه، واخذل من خذله، وانصر من نصره)، وفيه يقول صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم: (علي مني بمنزلة هرون من موسى إلا أنه لا نبي بعدي) وفي ذلك دليل على أنه قد أوجب له ما كان يجب لهرون مع موسى ما خلا النبؤة. وهرون صلى الله عليه فقد كان يستحق مقام موسى، وكان شريكه في كل أمره، وكان أولى الناس بمقامه، وفى ذلك ما يقول موسى عليه السلام حين سأل ذاالجلال والاكرام فقال: (واجعل لى وزيرا من أهلى هرون اخي أشدد به أزري وأشركه في أمري كي نسبحك كثيرا ونذكرك كثيرا إنك كنت بنا بصيرا) (21) فقال الله سبحانه قد أوتيت سؤلك يا موسى) (22) فاعطاه الله سؤله في إشراكه لهرون في أمر موسى، فمن أنكر أن يكون علي أولى الناس بمقام الرسول صلى الله عليه وآله فقد رد كتاب الله ذي الجلال والاكرام والطول، وأبطل قول رب العالمين، وخالف في ذلك ما نطق به الكتاب المبين، وأخرج هارون من أمر موسى كله، وأكذب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله في قوله، وأبطل ما حكم به في أمير المؤمنين، فلابد أن يكون من كذب بهذين المعنيين في دين الله فاجرا، وعند جميع المسلمين كافرا. حدثني أبي عن أبيه أنه سئل عن إمامة علي بن أبي طالب رحمة الله عليه أفرض هي من الله؟ فقال: كذلك نقول وكذلك يقول العلماء من آل الرسول عليه وعلى آله السلام، قولا واحدا لا يختلفون

He Refers To The Verse: "O Prophet if u do not tell the people what has been sent unto you then you have not completed your mission of Risalah"
Refering to The Appoinment Of Ali Ibn Abi Talib.
Aswell As citing the Hadith Al-Manzila,He uses it prove from Quran that this relationship was that Haroon (A.S) was made the Khilafa/Wazir of Musa by the Dua of Musa and Amr of Allah. He Says That Similar was the case with Ali ibn Abi Talib(A.S) , who was appointed in the life of the Holy Prophet (S). He also declares that whosever rejects this has rejected both the Book of Allah and the Prophet of Allah (s).
Then he narrates that he asked his father who narrates on authority of his ancestors: Is the Imamah of Ali (A.S) made WAJIB by Allah (i.e is he a divinely appointed imam?) to which he replied: It is like that and this is what the Ulama from Aal e Mohammad (s) have always said with consensus without any difference of opinion in them about this.
September 30, 2010 1:24 PM
Ali said...
in this post i shall Discuss as you Requested,True Isma´ili View on Fiqh,Masaa'il al-Fiqh and Obeying Qudhat Other then Ahl ul-Bayt,and apllicance of Sharia with out a Just Imam.

We Uphold The Practices of Sharia Very strictly,and Also Adhere to The Mysticism and Gnosis of Religion on the Other Hand Strictly.

Isma''ilis Pray 5 times in 3 Periods of the day towards Ka´aba in Mecca,Purify themselves(Taharah),Pay Zakat,Khums,Fast in Ramadhan Abstaining From Food ,Smoking,Intercourse,and Drink,Make Hajj and Umrah,Wear Beards and Hijab and This All Disitnguishes us From the More Better Known Agha Khanis Who Abandon Sharia´s External Aspect.on the other hand They Also Visit The Ka´aba in Najaf,the Batini Ka´aba wich is ali ibn Abi Talib,The Ka´aba in Mecca is holy ,since ali was Born there.

the Fasting Also means Abstain from sinfull thoughts and Deeds and Be kind to Others.Taharah also means Purification Of Your Heart(Qulub) and Your Intentions(al-niyyah).

Isma´ili Muslims Like Our Ibadhi Brethren see Ijtihad,Ijma,and Qiyas As All False -I.e Batil'- and not Authoratative-Hujjah'
According to Imam Jafar Al-sadiq the Fist person to do Qiyas Was Shaitan when he Thought fire was better then Clay and it led him to Destruction.

We See These Sources as a Source of Fiqh-

Quran ,Provided its Interpretation by the Imam of Ahl ul-bayt for Allah Says About His Quran:
None touches save the PURIFIED ONES. (56:79) No one knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly ground in
knowledge. (3:7) Even Ali Ordered us To do This, Ali Says : 'God has Commanded you to Ask to the People of Reminder(Ahl al-Dhikr),and By God we are the People of Reminder.Anyone who makes this claim but is not of us,is a liar.The Word of God Confirms this:
Now Allah Has Send Down unto You a Reminder,a Messenger reciting unto you the revelations of Allah made plain,that he may bring forth those who believe and do good works from darkness unto light(quran 65:10-11) and then he says:Ask the People of of the Reminder (ahl al dhikr)if you know Not(Quran 16:43) '

the Second Source is The Sunnah of the Prophet Handed Down to us by the Imams of Ahl ul-Bayt,as they Spent their lives with him in his house,and saw him more then any Companion.

the last is the Ahadith of The Imams wich are basically a Tafsir of the Prophets sunnah and his Risalah,and of course the Quran.
Isma´ili muslims Follow the Fiqh Book called´´ the Pillars of Islam´´Or Al-Da´a´´im al-islam By Qadhi numan (d. 974 CE/ 363 AH)
Wich Only Quotes the Quran and Traditions on Each chapter and not the opinions of Scholars without giving Proofs,like Twelver and sunni Fiqh Books tend to do.
Isma´ili Fiqh is Largely Related to Twelver Fiqh Except For Matters Such as Inheritence,Breastfeeding,and Muta.
October 1, 2010 7:37 AM
Ali said...
In Regards to Muta ,it is Forbidden By All Isma'ilis,this Distinguishes us From Twelver fiqh.
it is a Pagan PRactice Abrogated By Our Prophet(SWS)Ammianus Marcellinus' book "The Roman History, Book XIV.iv.1-7." (380 AD)
Book XIV.4:Their life is one continued wandering; their wives are hired, on special covenant, for a fixed time; and that there may be some appearance of marriage in the business, the intended wife, under the name of a dowry, offers a spear and a tent to her husband, with a right to quit him after a fixed day, if she should choose to do so. And it is inconceivable with what eagerness the individuals of both sexes give themselves up to matrimonial pleasures. -

In Regards to the Ayah Largely Quoted By Twelvers
(4:24) فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِه ِِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَة ً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُمْ بِه ِِ مِنْ بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيماً حَكِيما Refers to Stipulated dowry After consumation wich May Be changed By the Woman therefore it Is Faridhatan ,And وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُمْ بِه ِِ مِنْ بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ Refers To there being no Harm in Changing The Dowry Price,not Extension of a Muta.

Our Beloved Da'i Qadhi Numan Has To Say on the Matter:
The Messenger of God:He Declared Temporary Marriage to Be Forbidden.
Ali(صلى الله عليه و اله‎):He Said,A Valid Marriage with a Guardian and two witnesses,but no for one or two dirhams,or for one or Two Days.This is Debauchery(sifah)an is not a valid condition in marriage,

Jafar b.muhammad(عليه السلام‎):A man asked him about muta marriage,(The Imam)Said:
Describe it to me'',The man Said:A man meets a woman and says ''i Shall marry you for this dirham or for two dirhams,for one communion or for one or two days''(the Imam )Said:This is unlawfull intercourse,and no one but a immoral person acts thus.

The Refutation of the muta marriage is contained in the quran,for God Says:And those who Guard their modesty-save from their wives or the that wich their right hand possess,For Then They Are not BlameWorthy.But Whomsoever Craveth Beyoind that,Such are the Transgressors(23:5-7)...
(Da'a''im al-Islam ,Pillars Of Islam,chp 10 Book of marriage Kitab al-Nikah pg 215 al-shurut fil nikah )
October 1, 2010 7:45 AM
Ali said...
Allah Said:
وَالْمُحْصَنَاتُ مِنَ النِّسَاءإِلاَّمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ كِتَابَ اللّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُم مَّا وَرَاء ذَلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُواْ بِأَمْوَالِكُم مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحِينَ فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُم بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُم بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمً

Twelvers Say ''Istimtatum bihi Minhunna''means ''Then as those whom you make muta By'''Whereas We Say Istimta means Benefit ,and the Verse means when You have Benefitted with them,give them Their Ajer(Mahr),and that''there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed''does not Mean Extending the Muta contract but means here is no blame on Making future Plans or Possibly the Change of the Dower(Allahu Alim).
Twelvers Will Say That Quran وَآتُوا النِسَاء صَدُقَاتِهِنَّ نِحْلَة ً فَإِنْ طِبْنَ لَكُمْ عَنْ شَيْء ٍ مِنْهُ نَفْسا ً فَكُلُوه ُُ هَنِيئا ً مَرِيئا ''4:4 wa aatun nisaa-a Saduqaatihin-na niHlah* fain Tibna lakum 'An shay'im minhu nafsan fa kuluuhu haniy-am mariy'aa ''And give to the women (whom you marry) their Mahr (obligatory bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) with a good heart, but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, take it, and enjoy it without fear of any harm (as Allāh has made it lawful). (An-Nisa 4:4)

contradicts Our Viewpoint since the Ayah 4:4 describes Mahr as a '''Free gift'''Whereas sura 4:24 Describes m,ahr as a '''Ujūrahunna Farīđatan ''Or Mahr Wich is Stipulated .Thus 4:24 must Refer to a Different Kind of Marriage :Muta

This is Illogical,it only Mentions The Two Mahrs with Nikah and Not any Other Marriage!

Also We have the Hadiths of ali (a.s)on the Matter:

Ali (صلى الله عليه و اله‎ ) said:
“The Messenger of Allah had forbidden Mutah on the day of Khaybar and had forbidden the eating of the meat of domestic camels.” [Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizy, Ibn Majah, Nasa`i, Tahawy, Shafi’i, Bayhaqy, and Hazimy]
Ali (صلى الله عليه و اله‎ ) said to a man who was engaging in Mutah:
“You are a straying person, the Messenger of Allah has forbidden temporary marriage and the meat of domestic camels on the day of Khaybar.” [Muslim and Bayhaqy]

the Tahrim of muta has Been discussed here in Detail.

Many Thanks to Username ProAhlulbayt1
October 1, 2010 7:47 AM
Ali said...
We Also Beleive the Applicance of Hudood,Hukum,and Ta´azir Is the Presence of the Just imam or his Representative,this is Neccassery,if the Imam is not Present the Case should Be Haulted.Many hadiths come from Ali and the imams that there is no hukkam,hudood,or jumu´ah prayer except with the presence of a just imam.these hadiths can be found in da´a´im al-islam first Volume,and also Twelver Sources as Mustadrak al-Wasa´il and Bihar Al-Anwar.
تقيJafar Bin Mohammed -: There is no Jumma, without the presence of Just and Taqi(pouis) Imamوعن علي (عليه السلام) أنه قال: لا يصلح الحكم ولا الحدود ولا الجمعة، إلا بإمام عدلAli -: The judgement, penalties and Friday Prayer are not in order except executed by the Just Imams.
وعن علي عليه السلام أنه قال: لا يصلح الحكم ولا الحدود ولا الجمعة إلا بامام عدلAli - the Hukam and Hudood and Jummah are not valid in the absence of a Just Imam.
Da'a'im ul Islam Vol-1 Page-180 2 Page-181 3 Page-182 4 Page-182 We Also Beleive the Qadhi must be Authorized By Ahl ul-Bayt and Ali Says those people who Refer their Disputes To the people who do not consider the Ahkam of Ahl ul-bayt Are Tawaghit(Idols)
The Da'i abu Hanifah An-numan(Radhiyallahu anh) Recorded These ahadith From The Holy Ones:
He Says :Every Ruler(Hakim)who pronounces a judgement without considering our legal judgements-Being The People Of The House(Ahl El-Beit)-is a false diety(Taghut).Ali then Recited the Word of they would go for Judgement to False Dieties when they have been ordered to Abjure them`?Satan would mislead them far astray(4`:60),and Said,By God that this is exactly what they did.They presented their case before a false diety and satan led them far astray.nobody except us and our partisans have escaped this verse,the rest have been ruined.May The Curse(lanah)of God Be upon anyone who doesnt know the rights(Haqqahum)
(da´a´im al-islam kitab Adab al-Qudhat pg 538)

Jafar bin muhammad:concerning the Word of God:And Eat Up not your property among yourselves in Vanity,Nor Seek by it to Gain the Hearing of the Authorities(Hukkam)(2:188)

Said-Verily Allah that there is in the community Officials(hukkam)who Behave Corruptly(Yajuruna),but listen,He Does not mean the Officers of the People of Justice(Ahl al-Adalalah).

Rather he Means the officers of the People of Corruption(ahl al-jawr),Listen whenever one of you has a Case against another and he Asks him to go to the people of Justice and he Refuses to do so and,Instead,refers the Case for adjudication to an officer of the People of Corruption,he is Truly a Person who Goes for Decision to a False Diety(Taghut).That is the Word of God :
Have You not Seen those Who pretend that they Beleive in that wich is Revealed unto You and that wich Was Revealed Before You,
how they would go for Judgement to False Dieties when they have been ordered to Abjure them`?Satan would mislead them far astray(4`:60)
(da´a´im al-islam kitab Adab al-Qudhat pg 538)
October 1, 2010 7:52 AM
Ali said...
Correction:i ment to say There Were 6 Rasool Al-Adham ,of course there were more then 6 Prophets!

also We Interpret that allah Created the Heavens and Earth in Six days Refers to these 6 Nutaqa and not the Days of time.

Taking time to Create indicates Limit and Weakness and allah only has to Say:BE !and it
Is!(Kun Fayakun)

The Creation-الخلق

Our Da'i Muayyadh fi'l Deen al-shirazi has Discussed this matter and the Illogical literalism of the Majority of Scholars in this Regard.

:there were another difference between us and Other muslims is Our Fixed Calender:

The great writer, Dai, Hamid al-Din Ahmed bin Abdullah al-Kirmani (Ahmed Kirmani) in 944 AD introduced in his tract (rasala) Risalat al-Mudi’ah a fixed Calendar (known as Fatimid or Misri Calendar) not depending on the sighting of crescent moon for the beginning of a month .

This Can be further Read Here:

The Fiqh Council of North America, a grouping of Muslim scholars, began offering an astronomically-derived date for Eid five years ago.

The council believes the Quran does not mandate physical sightings. It says Eid this year falls on Friday, backing Saudi Arabia’s decision.

Because Lunar cycles are not precisely equal to 29 days, intercalations (adjustments to calendar days) are made in Misri calendar once in a while by extending Zilhaj by 1 day to 30 days. Zilhaj is normally 29 days.

In this instance Isma'ilis are advanced compared to the rest of the Muslims.

I know mTwelvers Who Cant Even Celebrate Eid together Because one Marja Says Eid is On Amother Day.

The Sunni Schools Have similar Problems.

I shall Try and quote the Quranic Verses in This Regard Insha'Allah.
October 1, 2010 9:43 AM
Ali said...
أَيَّاما ً مَعْدُودَات ٍ ۚ فَمَنْ كَانَ مِنْكُمْ مَرِيضاً أَوْ عَلَى سَفَر ٍ فَعِدَّة ٌ مِنْ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ ۚ وَعَلَى الَّذِينَ يُطِيقُونَه ُُ فِدْيَة ٌ طَعَامُ مِسْكِين ٍ ۖ فَمَنْ تَطَوَّعَ خَيْرا ً فَهُوَ خَيْر ٌ لَه ُُ ۚ وَأَنْ تَصُومُوا خَيْر ٌ لَكُمْ ۖ إِنْ كُنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ

Ayyāmāan Ma`dūdātin Faman Kāna Minkum Marīđāan 'Aw `Alá Safarin Fa`iddatun Min 'Ayyāmin 'Ukhara ۚ Wa `Alá Al-Ladhīna Yuţīqūnahu Fidyatun Ţa`āmu Miskīnin ۖ Faman Taţawwa`a Khayrāan Fahuwa Khayrun Lahu ۚ Wa 'An Taşūmū Khayrun Lakum ۖ 'In Kuntum Ta`lamūna
002.184 (Fasting) for a FIXED number of days; but if any of you is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed number (Should be made up) from days later. For those who can do it (With hardship), is a ransom, the feeding of one that is indigent. But he that will give more, of his own free will,- it is better for him. And it is better for you that ye fast, if ye only knew.

The word ma'adudaat is past participle of the verb 'adda. It means that the number of days have already been determined and are fixed, presumably, by Allah.

Only Isma'ili Hijri calendar can ALWAYS have fixed number of days. Non-Isma'ilis struggles with citing moon which NEVER gives fixed number of days reading i.e. it always gives variable reading - in some year 29 days, some year 30 days; in same year - some part of world mark 29 days other mark 30 days.

now Ramadhan Being a Mercy of allah(swt)should have a Fixed number of Days.if one person has 29 days and the other 30,the Former Could complain of Injustice(Dhulm)To allah(Tabaraka Wa Ta'ala).

Allah wants you to start the month by observing the moon. that Possibly means that the calendar months are to be based on the Lunar cycle. In other ayats, notably in surat al-Yaseen, Allah(Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) states that orbits of the Moon and the Sun are fixed. Therefore the number of days in the lunar month are fixed.
October 2, 2010 11:23 AM
Ali said...
In The Whole World We define the Day by The solar Orbits.

we also Use Artificial Clocks wich Step in Equal increments.

These Artificial Clocks Tell us a Day is Usually Twenty-four hours.

i.e. divided up into 24 Increments Equally.

24x60 increments or 24x60x60 increments called hours, minutes and seconds Etc.

(This is Relativly a New Invention and not Used at The Time of the Imams(a.s))

This Day is Defined as a '' mean solar Day'' -

Suppose a Mujtahid Declares to his Muqallids That the Day shoudl be Defiend by his own PErsonal clock then his day will not be on Equal Terms with the solar Day.

If your Read the quran al-Karim it does not define what a Day is but a Month is.

so if the muslims Define a day by the Lunar Measurements instead of the Solar measurements they will be free from this Problem.

they should fast from the New moon until the Next New moon.

From sunrise to sunset.

and do other things like Salat etc.

(all muslims do This,but Non-Isma'ili muslims insist on Following a mujtahid to sight The new moon when The new moon can be Predicted by the MilliSecond)

once this is accepted we will have a Fixed Muslim Calender.
October 2, 2010 11:35 AM
Ali said...
With Regards to qiyas and Ijtihad:
The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) said: ‘Every innovation is a sin and the punishment of
every innovator is Hell’.
In religion the meaning of Qiyas is the application of a command in one matter to
another matter based on a common ground. This then demands that the order
should be the same for the two matters. - (Commentary of Sahifa Kamila by
Mufti Ja’far Husayn)

Mufti Jafar Husayn writes that there are three types of analogies:
1. Qiyas Mansus Ul Ala – As the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) said that wine if
forbidden because it is an intoxicant, it therefore means that every
intoxicant is therefore forbidden. (One Mujtahid actually made tobacco
unlawful based on this type of analogy).
2. Qiyas Ba Tariq Ul Ala – As Allah (s.w.t.) Has Said in the Holy Quran ‘Do
not say UFF to your parents’, it therefore means that we should not harm
them in the least.
3. Qiyas Mustanbat Ul Ala – When one does Istinbaat based on one’s
opinion and arrives at the order. This Qiyas is incorrect from the Shiite
point of view.

This is a well known story of Sheykh Chilli. One day, in the midst of the summer
heat, he decided to do some gardening. So he went to get his gardening tool
which had become quite hot due to the summer heat. As soon as he grabbed
hold of the tool his hand got scalded from it. So he asked for advice from
someone to take a look at the gardening tool and see what the problem was. So
the advisor said mockingly: ‘Your gardening tool has got high fever. The solution
is to tie a rope round it and immerse it into the water well so that its fever can
come down’. So Sheykh Chilli followed the instructions and lo, the tool cooled
down. By coincidence, after a few days his mother fell ill with high fever. So
Sheykh Chilli then started thinking that surely there is a similarity here between
the two cases. Therefore the same order should be applicable on both the cases.
He then tied a rope around his mother’s neck and flung her into the water well.
After a few dips when he took her out, the fever was gone, but then so was his
mother. I don’t think Sheykh Chilli should be totally blamed for doing what he did
as his error can be classified as an ‘error of Ijtihad’.

This is a Major difference Between us and Zaydi Muslims.

also Zaidia did you still want to Discuss Fiqh in both Madhahib.Maybe you Are Busy?

Insha'Allah to Hear a Comparison in the future.
October 2, 2010 12:17 PM
Ali said...
The Number 7 plays a Very Important role in Our Theology.

This,sister is Why Many People Mistake us to Be ''''seveners''.

it is not because our Imams(a.s)Number is Seven But Because we Beleive the Number 7 is Very Important.

Here is a alavi bohra(Ismaili Group)Article on the number 7:

In the year 2007 AD, 7th of July fell on Saturday, the 7th day of the week. And the format of the date looked like 07/07/07. This was an uncommon coincidence which flashed on News channels.

It's not new that such occurrences give a golden opportunity for soothsayers, astrologers and numerologists to come out with their interpretations and opinions.

These so called advices and views have vast relations right from the political stability to the personal life of the people of various sun signs; from the marriages to the date of deliveries and the future of the new born babies.

These spiced up drinks of views and analysis are served in various glasses of news channels and at the receiving end, audiences and innocent people are the sufferers of its side effects.

By the grace of Allaah, we are not deprived of the purest of knowledge of Ahl ul-Bayt (AS).

We cannot be overwhelmed or influenced by the evil or ill rooted knowledge because we belong to the group of people who are guided by Allaah Himself.

A'immat it-Taahereen (AS) has endowed us with the glory and blessing of the pious and pure knowledge with the help of which we can sail through any storms of confusion and difficulties.

It is an attempt to make mumineen aware about the importance of number “7” in our aqeedah and shari'at.

7” is closely related to our aqeedah. It is a very auspicious number for us because it encompasses many facts of our principles.

Here are 44 ways to make it more special for us...

There are 7 Ambiyaa Notaqaa. There are 6 naatiq (lit. – speaker; the one who brings shari'at) from Maulaana Aadam (AS) till Rasoolullaah (SAWS) and the last 7th naatiq is Maulaana Qaa'im ul-Qayaamah who will be the leader on the day of Qayaamat.

7 days of the week starting from Sunday till Saturday.

7 Da'aaim ul-Islaam i.e. pillars of Islaam. Walaayat, Tahaarat, Namaaz, Zakaat, Saum, Hajj and Jehaad.

The period of pregnancy is 9 months and the stages of development of the foetus are 7 as mentioned in the Qur'an. The first stage is of wet mud till the completion (khalqan aakhar).
There are 7 orifices on the face. 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, 2 ears and 1 mouth.

The succession of A'immat it-Taahereen (AS) is divided into factions of 7 Imaam and the 7th Imaam of each faction is called as Motimm. Imaam Mohammad bin Ismaa'il (AS) is the motimm of 1st faction, Imaam Mo'iz (AS) of 2nd and Imaam Taiyeb (AS) of 3rd faction. Till the day of qayaamat, the succession of A'immat it-Taahereen (AS) will run into 14 factions – the 98th Imaam being the last of them.

One tawaf (circum-ambulation) around Ka'batullaah consists of 7 times encircling the Ka'bah.

It is mandated upon us to hit the stones to the pillars of Shaitaan in 7 sets during the days of Hajj.
A mumin does sa’y between Safaa and Marwaa 7 times.

There are 7 manaazil (pl – manzil; sections) of the Qur'an.

The time of Zohr and ‘Asr is due after 7 hours from the sunrise.

There are 7 Aflaak (pl – falak; skies, celestial spheres). There is 7 stars – one in each of them; Zohl (Saturn) , Mushtari (Jupiter), Mirreekh (Mars), Shams (Sun), Zohraa (Venus), ‘Otaarid (Mercury) and Qamar (Moon).
October 3, 2010 3:59 AM
Ali said...
There are 7 continents viz. Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia and 7 seas viz. Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Black Sea, Adriatic Sea, Caspian Sea, Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean .

There are basic 7 minerals present in the earth's crust namely: Silicon, magnesium, potassium, calcium, iron, sodium, aluminium.

Allaah has created 7 Jahannam (hell) for the cursed.

7 parts of the body touch the ground while doing sajadah; face (forehead and tip of nose), palms of the hands, both the knees and great toes.
There are 7 colours in a Rainbow.

They are Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo and Violet. These are the colours in the visible light.
There are 7 orbits in an Atom.

The nitrogen atom is composed of exactly 7 protons, 7 neutrons and 7 electrons, and this alone brings about the significance of this number, even in the very roots of creation. The atomic number of nitrogen is 7.

Geologically there are 7 layers of the Earth.
Most Mammal's neck have 7 Bones even giraffe’s.

There are 7 rows in a periodic table.

All halogens have 7 electrons in their outer shells.

The Ph of pure Water is 7.

The International System of Units (SI) defines 7 units of measure. These SI base units and their physical quantities are meter for length, kilogram for mass, second for time, ampere for electrical current, kelvin for temperature, candela for luminous intensity, and mole for the amount of substance.

There are 7 atmospheric layers of earth viz. troposphere, stratosphere, ozonosphere, mesosphere, thermosphere, ionosphere and exosphere.

There are 7 stellar visible objects to the naked eye in the skies viz. Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn.

Parents should instruct their wards to offer namaaz at the age of 7.

There are 7 faraa’iz (compulsory points) in every pillars of Islaam.

Rasoolullaah (saws) - Nabi and M. Ali (as) - Wasi lived for 63 (7x9) years.

A believer is required to do istighfaar for his misdeeds 70 (7x10) times daily.

Allaah has sent the destructive wind on the People of "Aad" for 7 nights.

People of the Yusuf Nabi were tested with 7 years of famine.

Aqeeqah of the new-born child should be done on 7th or 14th or 21st day after his birth.
The first surah of Qur’an Surat ul-Faateha has 7 verses.

There are 28 (7x4) alphabets in Arabic language in which the Qur’an is revealed.
In the Qur'an Surat un-Nahl mentions 7 types of liquids viz. semen, water, blood, milk, date, grape juice, honey.

7 is the sum of any two opposite sides on a standard six-sided die. When rolling two standard six-sided dice, seven has a 6 in 36 (or 1/6th) probability of being rolled (1–6, 6–1, 2–5, 5–2, 3–4, or 4–3), the greatest of any number.

There are 7 mahram-daar with whom Nikaah is forbidden. Mother, sister, daughter, father’s sister, mother’s sister, brother’s daughter and sister’s daughter,

The only verse in the Qur’an where the word “Allaah” is there 7 times is the last verse of Surat ul-Muzzammil.

The mention that Allaah has created earth and heavens in 6 days is repeated 7 times in Qur’an.

There are 7 virtues which lead to the Paradise viz. Chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, kindness, patience and humility.

There are 7 vices which lead to the Hell-fire viz. Lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy and pride.

The Da’wat of Allaah is established with 28 (7x4) hudood which includes the Imaam himself.
There are 7 mountains mentioned in the Qur’an and in Ahaadees viz. Abi Qubays, Hiraa, Ohud, Judi, Toor-e-Sinaa, Toor-e-Tainaa, Toor-e-Zaitaa
October 3, 2010 4:00 AM
Ali said...
The Da'i Though he is not a Imam(a.s)has the duty to lead the Beleivers to The Straight Path.

Enjoining the Da'wah is a Job that Requires Stict Adherence to The Closeness of allah(Qurbatan il Allah)and cannot mislead his followers like Mujtahids and other Scholars who require blind following of their Imitators(Muqallids).

this has been Explained in In Risalah Al-Mujazah al Kafiyah fi Adab al-Du'at by Syedna Ahmad bin Muhammad Nishapuri.

the risalah is not available but Syedna Hatim ibn Ibrahim al-Hamidi had included it in his celebrated work Tuhfat al-Qulub. so it is Authentic.

The holy Qur'an strongly denounces istikbar (i.e. arrogance of power). Firawn is described by the Qur'an as from amongst the mustakbirin and the holy Prophet is described as da'iilal haq (caller to truth).

Syedna Ahmad as reported by Syedna Hatim in his Tuhafat al-Qulub maintains that if a Da'i does not call people by wisdom and goodly exhortations (but through coercion) then it would not be Allah's D'awah but the D'awah of shaitan.

These strong words themselves show how necessary for a Da'i it is to use the Qur'anic way of preaching and calling people towards Allah's way.

Syedna Ahmad then goes on to say that one who does not use hikmah and maw'azatul hasanah (i.e. wisdom and goodly exhortation ) cannot be a Da'i at all. He fails to fulfill the most basic qualification of being a Da'i.

Then he quotes the Qur'anic verses (33:45-46 ), "O Prophet, surely we have sent thee as a witness and a bearer of good news and warner, and as an inviter to Allah by his permission and as a light giving sun."

Syedna Ahmad bin Muhammad also draws our attention to one more important aspect: a Da'i who attributes to himself the attributes of God, he is guilty of shirk and is ignorant of tawhid I.e. belief in unity of God. Such a person cannot be fit to be Da'i.

Further on it is said in the Risalah that one who is incapable of bringing up his followers in the knowledge of theology and knowledge of Allah (ulum-o-maarif) cannot claim to be Da'i.

According to the Risalah under discussion, a Da'i must be properly equipped with three types of siyasat: siyasat-e-khassa, siysat-e-hamma and siyasat-e-amma.

Siyasat-e-khassa is control of one's self. One should abide by all the shariah injunctions, practice what is good and keep away from what is forbidden.

One should refrain from evil and should imbibe all that Allah attributes to m'umin in the Qur'an.

In fact a Da'i has to be much more than a m'umin as he is to lead all of them along the straight path.

Siyasat-e-hamma is the control over one's own household, one's staff and servants. A Da'i has to see that his staff is properly trained in all the good qualities, is cultured and refined in every way.

The messenger of Allah has also said that one who trains people of his household properly will go to jannah along with them.

Thus it behoves a Da'i that he should train people from his household and his staff properly and cultivate interest in knowledge and refine their behaviour.

Siyasat-e-amma pertains to control of common people.

One who is successful in this type of siyasat takes care of common peoples' requirements, their material and spiritual well-being.

A successful Da'i should give attention towards cultivating the common people, making them happy and fulfilling their economic needs and refining them spiritually.

He should prevent them from what is forbidden by the shariah and induce them to acquire more and more spiritual merits.

It should have abiding interest in and knowledge should keep away from lowly things and turpitude of character.

It should be exemplary in its behaviour towards others.
October 3, 2010 4:15 AM
Ali said...
Sayedna Ahmad bin Muhammad Nishapuri Goes on to Describe the Qualificatioons of a Da'i

A Da'i should be brave, generous, shrewd of sound opinion and capable of leadership.

A Da'i should be very just in managing the affairs of his people.

A Da'i should be mujahid completely in control of himself, as he is required to lead people in the way of Allah.

A Da'i should be like a doctor (tabib) with compassion towards the patient and he should be able to cure their (spiritual ) disease.

A Da'i is like a washerman as he removes the dirt of sins from people's soul. Thus he should have expertise of a washerman.

A Da'i should be capable of leading his people through darkness of night walking through thick forest since he is like a leader leading people along sirat-e-mustaqim.

It is highly necessary that a Da'i should be merciful and compassionate towards his followers as Allah says in the Qur'an that we have sent into thee (O Prophet) but as mercy for the world. Like the Prophet a Da'i should also be merciful.

Allah also describes m'uminin in Qur'an as compassionate among themselves, thou seest them bowing down prostrating themselves seeking Allah's grace and pleasure(translation of The quran 48:29).

When the m'uminin are compassionate among themselves, a Da'i has to be compassionate. A Da'i must follow Allah for his mercy.

The Prophet also despite people's refusal to follow him and his persecution at their hands did not give up mercy for them.

Punishing others is not a good quality. Allah also does not punish to the fullest extent as the Qur'an says,

Allah had punished people for their iniquities, no one would have been left on the face of earth, but he respites them till an appointed time" (Translation of the quran 16:16)

syedna ahmed Goes on further to Write That When ordinary man is required not to be miserly what of a Da'i who is to lead others.

If a Da'i is miserly his followers will also become miserly and thus the needy and the poor will ultimately suffer.

It is incumbent on a Da'i that he should spend generously on the needy and work for their welfare.

The Prophet(Sallallahu alayhi Wa aalih) has also said that Allah has not created any Wali but on generosity.

A Da'i should also be truthful and courteous and lenient.

If a Da'i is not truthful others will not be and whole system will be affected. Also courtesy and softness is part of one's iman.

One must show these qualities.

A Da'i should also be of sound opinion and a good administrator.

The D'awah cannot be run without sound administration.

A Da'i should also fulfill his word. This too is very important for good behaviour.

If a Da'i is found unfaithful to his words, his followers too would refuse to abide by their word and whole system will be corrupted.

A Da'i should also be able to keep secrets because of running the system of D'awah through thick and thin one must be able to keep secrets.

It is also necessary for a Da'i that he should not be revengeful, prejudiced and quarrelsome.

A respondent, for lack of sound knowledge and experience may be lacking in these qualities but
a Da'i has to take care of such situations.

A Da'i should also be capable of easily pardoning others.

A Da'i should have a SWEET TONGUE and be highly courteous. He should also be an eloquent speaker, in order to influence others.

Also, a Da'i should be very patient and capable of facing acute difficulties. If a Da'i has no patience and looses temper easily, people will run away from him.

Thus Allah says in the Qur'an, "And hadst thou (ie. Prophet) been rough, hard-hearted, they would certain have dispersed from around thee. So pardon them and ask protection for them and consult them in (important) matters"(Translation of the quran 3:158),
October 3, 2010 4:36 AM

to 1.In Our Opinion the Imamate is granted to Ahl ul-Bayt based on their Purification and virtues,they cannot harm the servants,nor can they Commit any Injustice.You may have a ruler who is just to his people of non-hashemite descent and rulers who are tyrannical from hashemite descent(like morocco,Mutawakilite dynasty,jordan).
why does the Sayyed get the right just because of his lineage?

secondly when The Prophet of Allah said:i leave with you Two Heavy Weights,he mentioned that the quran and his Ahl ul-bayt are Intertwined.

the quran is Pure,it is a book wich guides,and cannot how can this refer to the Sayyed descendents who are non-Masoom?
the qurna does not fight amongsat does not Vie for is the authority of allah,and His light upon the Earth.

no when the ahl ul-bayt are not seperated from this Quran,then how can this refer to a Non-masoom imam?

Also we point out,Zaydi imamate is not From Allah(SWT)because You make changes in your imamate.zaydis do not claim theyre imam is fromm allah either.

also i heard you beelive the victor in battle is the right imama,and this is how you know he is appointed(mansub)by Allah.

thats sounds very funny to us!

but the Sunna of Alah does not change.

So if your question is will the Imamat of Allah(SWT)be better for his servants or the manmade imamate,i will have to say the imamate of Allah.
October 19, 2010 6:49 AM
Ali said...
cocnerning the Agha Khan,He is not a Hashemite.

and he has nothing to do with Isma'ilis.

he is the leader of the Nizari branch,and they have strayed from islam.

also,Will you actually want to put a zaydi leader over the whole Ummah?

Isma'ilis to Be Hoenst ,are Apolitical in this Sence.

because the last imam ,the 98th,is the one who will return and call in the Qiyamah.

until then we dont expect to see a imam coming out of Hiding.

but the Da'i acts as his Representative.

and no we dont want to rule the Ummah,we just want to rule Najran our own homeland ,with freedom.

also i will tell you something about the Agha Khan,he serves Alcohol.

However one of the Fatimid caliphs,Al-Hakim bi AmrAllah(SWS)put to death those who sold fact he is considered the most strict caliph in this regard in muslim history.

Also in the Da'a''im a-Islam,the isma'ili Hadith and Fiqh book Supreme, wich was Authorized by the Fatimid Caliphs we See the famouis hadith on alcohol from the Prophet.(i Beleive on the Authority of Jafar Bin Muhamamd who narrated from the Messenger of allah):

Allah's Messenger cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.
Nizari themselves say its contents were the isma'ili fiqh:

''''''''The Da‘a’im, in two volumes, can be arguably described as the most important work on Ismaili law. It was commissioned by the Fatimid Imam-caliph al-Mu‘izz and written in North Africa around 349/960. Its purpose was to serve as the religious and civil code from the Fatimid religious and secular administration. However, its value as an authoritative and respected historical legal source has lasted to the present day. This is reflected in the fact that the Da‘a’im has been the main reference for generations of Ismaili scholars in the legal field. The first volume deals with acts of obedience to God (‘ibadat). The second volume focuses on codes of conduct and regulations for the community (mu‘amalat).''''''
October 19, 2010 7:07 AM
Ali said...
Secondly The Da'a'im Al-Islam Contains a Hadith from Ali:

''It is impermissable to marry a Harbiya(non-muslim living in non-muslim land) in Dar Al-Harb(non-muslim country)''

But doesnt he come from a Family wich is famouis for the breaking of this Order?

also We find a Hadith,in da'a''im al-islam kitab An-nikah: from Imam Al-Baqir who was asked about a mumina,that she lives in a place with no believers,can she intermarry with the non-beleivers(i.e. muslims but not mumins)?He said,No,she may only marry from her own community,but as for the males you can marry those Women from among Ahl al-Shakk(people of doubt),who are Mustadhifin(poor)and Ignorant(jahil)but not those from among High class or Educated.

basically a Isma'ili women may not even marry a non-isma'ili muslim.

yet Princess Zahra married a Christian with bible in hand.

this i got from a freind of mine,but i dotjn know if he sourced it correctly:

Kitab Da'aim ul Islam, by Syedna AlQadi AlNoman (R. A.).
In the Bab al Nikah, he quotes Al Imam Mohammad Al Baqir (A. S.) who states thus 'marriage within the community is the first choice and the best choice and the closest in acceptance unto Allah (A. Z.). Then, if none from the community is found, the next option is of those who are not as strong in their faith, from among those who do not love their Imams, but neither do they hate them. This category is better than those who hate the Imams....
October 19, 2010 7:17 AM

isma'ilis are very educated and respected in saudi arabia,and Yemen and build many schools, and Community centers for islam there!

the Indian Tayyibi do the same,they built the Saifee hosptial in India,india's most advanced hospital.and it is for poor people to come there and get health treatment for free.

now,the difference beetween us and others is we dont like to Boast our Good deeds,and we do not pursue the western leaders to praise us.

but one non-Isma'ili Writer Shows:

"In sum, the Sulaymanis have come to represent a progressive group, approving of social change and enouraging modern secular education and the attainment of specialized training at the higher occidental institutions. It is not surprising, therefore, that the small Sulaymani community has produced, proportionately speaking , a significant number of prominent men & women".("The Ismailis their history and doctrines",Page 323 By Farhad Daftary)

lastly the Beleivers are few,the Quran makes this clear.and we dont seek to gian converts and become a major sect,we will support the Zaydi Sultanate provided it goes in hand with Islamic laws and freedom of Faith.

we dont care for political power!and me supporting the Imamate is from a Theological point of view,in this view the Isma'ili stance is better.

but in Practical view i dont care if someones a Sayyed,or a non-Sayed as long as hes a Good ruler.
October 21, 2010 11:14 AM
there are two,groups that call thmselves by the name ''isma'ili'',Tayyibi and Agha khani,

the Agha Khani Beelive:

Vishnu and Krishna,Two hindu Idols,Are Teh Prophet Muhamamd Incarnate and his wasi Amir Al-Mumineen Respectiveyly.

This si trange,because didnt Recent Research show these people didnt Exist?

and Where from the Ahl ul-Bayt(a.s)is there any indication towards Vishnu and Krishna being PRe-Muhammadi imams,and Where did they mention the pagan beleif of re-incarnation?

Secondly Princess Zahra,The Noorani Princess Married a christian his name is Mark Boyden.

i showed from Isma'ili sources this is not Allowed.

Secondly,The Agha Khan,Married his first wife in Paris,Dar Al-Harb
she was not a muslim but a French model,and the Isma'ili hadiths make it Clear it is
Impermissable to marry a Harbiya in dar Al-Harb.

cocnerning the King of Jordan ,he isa Kafir,he supported the invasion of Iraq and is a Kafir.

Furthermore The King of Morrocco is a Fasiq,i dont have 100% Evidence he is a kafir,but he is a fasiq.

they sent Elite Troops to go kill Zaydiyah because theyre Saudi Brehteren were losing.

see this article:

Will you still support them?
October 21, 2010 12:14 PM
Anonymous said...
Thridly if Bush,Blair and The king of Jordan have a good reputation among Free mason elite,we do niot care.

we care someones Position in the eyes of allah(SWT),and our Da'i fights the nemies of allah with his tongue ,and does not bow down to the Opressive Rulers.

the Messenger of allah said in the end times the Low will be honoured and the Exalted will be dishonoured.

Fourthly,Why attack the du'u'at Ila Allah(swt),defend your imamate first.

if it is not flawed why did the yemeni fight agaisnt him?

and what is the difference between our Da'i and your Imam?one is a Hashemite so he is Better?
October 21, 2010 12:30 PM
Ali said...
Our Da'i fights for our rights,and loves us,he even willing to give up his life for us,(and many of our da'is were Martyrs)and he will never run away

how is he lower then your Imam who ran to london?

fifhtly you asked me what my psoition was on Zaydism imamate or isma'ili iamamte,and i told you why i feel what i feel.

but all you said was '''The "Da'i" concept seems flawed... I don't think Ismailism will have a revival until you get yourselves a Hashemite Imam who can get your two sects to unite. '''with out giivng further Explanation.

this is can you say that when our Da'i is the kind of like your concept of imam ?

I Will Support the Zaydi sultanate or any Sultanate provided it ahderes to islamic law and Religiouis Equality.

but from a theological point of view we chose our form of imamate.

also Refer to post 3 of my former usernmame ,i have detailed the nature of imamate from the Quran.

and how and why did it change from the Imamayn Hasnayn(a.s)Being Mansoob Imams to the imamate being based on election?

where did the hadiths of ahl ul-bayt show this?

and what was the reason for the change?
October 21, 2010 12:35 PM

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